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AnaCristinaPrts
20:07
RT @davidwees: Don't forget to check out the #BCed wiki http://t.co/IYY3dXr and suggest a topic! Archive will be up later tonight.
davidwees
20:06
Don't forget to check out the #BCed wiki http://t.co/IYY3dXr and suggest a topic! Archive will be up later tonight.
mrjtyler
20:05
I only caught the end, but looks like another great #bced chat tonight! Thanks for organizing and I wish you all a fantastic day tomorrow!
davidwees
20:05
@lysmekah Good question. Hard to say. Lots of people talking on @BCAMT mailing list suggesting alternatives to the provincials. #BCed
bctf
20:05
BC Dance Educators' Association - Rhythmic Diversity! - Conference October 21 2011 http://t.co/ezOIO95 #bced
teachingtammy
20:04
Great #BCed chat tonight! I was lurking, but wishing I could have participated.
davidwees
20:04
@weemooseus I think whole school activities are really important, whatever they may be. #BCed
lysmekah
20:04
RT @abaconmoore: @davidwees my creativity as a teacher is enhanced by twitter, blogging, & my PLN. gets me out of my own mind. #bced
lysmekah
20:04
Do you think creativity and inquiry will increase in grade 12 courses now that provincial exams are gone? were they holding us back? #bced
davidwees
20:03
Okay folks, #BCed chat is done for today. Next one will be in a couple more weeks. September 19th. Thanks for joining!
AnaCristinaPrts
20:02
RT @davidwees: MT @MaryAnnReilly: @MrWejr @davidwees another reason why standardization is so problematic. impossible to be, let alone be creative. #BCed
davidwees
20:02
@mrgamble6 Actually, Identity day was shared by @MrWejr (and originally by @gcouros) but it is a great idea. #BCed
birklearns
20:02
Like that! RT @davidwees Or writing 140 character stories in English? #BCed
AnaCristinaPrts
20:02
RT @davidwees: Here's an innovative way to use cell phones as homework: Text the next line of the story back & forth with your friend. #BCed
davidwees
20:02
@lysmekah @tweetpmo @CBrannon Love math "labs." Do an experiment, gather data, observe graph, recognize math function! #BCed #mathchat
lysmekah
20:02
RT @remi_collins The quickest and easiest way to kill creativity in the room is to dictate the process from beginning to end #BCed #edchat
AnaCristinaPrts
20:01
@davidwees #BCed have sts' writings collected & published in an online book 4 free; very motivating 4 sts & teachers :-)
lysmekah
20:01
did math "labs" RT @davidwees: @tweetpmo @CBrannon I've done so many science activities in my math class over the years. #BCed
lysmekah
20:01
me too! RT @davidwees: @tweetpmo @CBrannon I've done so many science activities in my math class over the years. #BCed
GraemeCampbell
20:01
@davidwees in the back of my mind I want to do a giant lip dub - don't think I'll get to it this year though :) #bced
davidwees
20:01
@tweetpmo @CBrannon I've done so many science activities in my math class over the years. #BCed
esmecomfort
20:01
@davidwees one way to kill creativity: tell kids they can't read ahead! #BCed
AnaCristinaPrts
20:00
@davidwees #BCed have sts do a flash mob on playground - eg, sing, read, do crosswords, anything fun/educational
MrWejr
20:00
@davidwees I dentity allowed us to watch students demo dancing, singing... video editing, phtography #bced
tweetpmo
20:00
You're on to something here! MT @CBrannon: @davidwees Creativity in Math class looks like my Physics class... #BCed
davidwees
19:59
Does anyone have any suggestions for a whole school activity? #BCed
davidwees
19:59
3 more minutes left. Any last thoughts on creativity in our classrooms/schools? #BCed
MrWejr
19:58
Sorry I was late... bedtime for the bonzos... thanks to @davidwees for organizing and moderating #bced chat... have a great first day tmow!
cmmtimemachine
19:58
RT @davidwees: Here's a creative way to learn probability: Design a board game (and then play test it) #BCed
mmogatas
19:58
RT @davidwees: Here's an innovative way to use cell phones as homework: Text the next line of the story back & forth with your friend. #BCed
davidwees
19:58
@George_Haines A great way to learn about how science & math can be used in context is to place it there yourself. #BCed
glenhansman
19:57
RT @bctf: The numbers tell the story: Education funding in BC http://t.co/GDk4WH8 #bced #bcpoli
George_Haines
19:57
@davidwees I like the idea of snarky word problems- let students form a real problem in context of a tiny story. #BCed
abaconmoore
19:57
project: have hs class prepare lesson for elem school. #bced
judyshapiro
19:57
@lizstrauss @MrWejr Indeed - what better way for kids to learn being creative "We need to give teachers time & autonomy to BE creative #bced
salmonskyview
19:57
Try art integration to encourage creativity in all subjects #BCed
davidwees
19:57
@wclodfelter I like that idea. #BCed
Tim_Monreal
19:56
RT @mrwejr: @davidwees a key to creativity IMO is autonomy... for teachers, students... humans #bced
MrWejr
19:56
@HHG great points... autonomy, trust, safety... all keys to a space that encourages creativity #bced
abaconmoore
19:56
MT @MrWejr: Identity Day gave students a chance2 explore their passions &present in a creative way - http://t.co/3LOvGxi #bced
wclodfelter
19:56
@davidwees and create Facebook profiles for their favorite characters #BCed
davidwees
19:56
Here's an innovative way to use cell phones as homework: Text the next line of the story back & forth with your friend. #BCed
grapemanca
19:56
Concerns over access: Virtual Classes Go From Optional to Mandatory in Fla. | http://t.co/6oQdVwO #bced #sd33
lysmekah
19:56
i'd love to see that! RT @GraemeCampbell: @davidwees my 8 science are going to write and test a textbook #bced
Fernandezc4
19:56
RT @MrWejr: How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced
wclodfelter
19:56
@davidwees My rdg students are going to create movie trailers for their favorite books #BCed
MrWejr
19:55
RT @salmonskyview: Sometimes the creative space is found in nature or while being physically active #BCed
abaconmoore
19:55
project: phyics talk to chem talk to bio: how do we teach energy? can we use similar models/ language/ spiral the curriculum? #bced
MrWejr
19:55
Identity Day gave students a chance2 explore their passions &present in a creative way - no criteria, grades, etc http://t.co/XM6O8sU #bced
lysmekah
19:55
I feel i have the autonomy. It's the time that i'm lacking RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
davidwees
19:55
Or writing 140 character stories in English? #BCed
illini3sc
19:55
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
davidwees
19:55
How about students creating digital "word problems" in science and math? #BCed
salmonskyview
19:54
Sometimes the creative space is found in nature or while being physically active #BCed
2girlsandpoodle
19:54
Another September begins in hallways & classrooms. Another September begins without me. I am sad today, missing it. #bced #noteachingjobs4me
abaconmoore
19:54
project: art + science collaboration. use of clay to filter/purify water. has art dept wrkg with science dept. (not my idea). #bced
AnaCristinaPrts
19:54
RT @davidwees: Let's throw out some curriculum/project ideas to facilitate student creativity? #BCed
HHG
19:54
@MrWejr @davidwees And safety, yes? Trusted space? #bced
davidwees
19:54
@GraemeCampbell Yeah, I really like that project of yours. #BCed
MrWejr
19:54
We all need to have an Innovation Day like @stumpteacher http://t.co/ElIPdTC #bced
remi_collins
19:54
Teachers need to be afforded same feeling of safety to explore that we would give our students, that is where admin can step in #bced
AnaCristinaPrts
19:54
RT @MrWejr: @davidwees a key to creativity IMO is autonomy... for teachers, students... humans #bced
davidwees
19:54
More project suggestions? Let's throw out some practical suggestions for people lesson planning for this week. #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:54
@davidwees my 8 science are going to write and test a textbook #bced
leah_kelley
19:53
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
mrjtyler
19:53
@davidwees in some classrooms yes, but in others they have autonomy. Depends where the teachers are at on their continuum of learning. #bced
davidwees
19:53
RT @MrWejr: @davidwees a key to creativity IMO is autonomy... for teachers, students... humans #bced
abaconmoore
19:53
RT @mrgamble6: @davidwees More collaboration for teachers = More creativity for teachers. Apply the same formula for students #bced
GaryM
19:53
MT @MrWejr: "How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced” and #abed
MrWejr
19:52
@davidwees a key to creativity IMO is autonomy... for teachers, students... humans #bced
davidwees
19:52
Let's throw out some curriculum/project ideas to facilitate student creativity? #BCed
PAitken
19:52
Thanks everyone....great ideas in #bced chat tonight...looking forward to doing this again soon...have a great 1st day tomorrow
abaconmoore
19:52
@TRFletcher great point re need for Depth in Content area. My school encourages content growth, too. Teacher must be content expert. #bced
tomschimmer
19:52
Thanks #BCed....have a great first day tomorrow!
lizstrauss
19:52
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
davidwees
19:52
Here's a creative way to learn probability: Design a board game (and then play test it) #BCed
mrjtyler
19:52
@abaconmoore great idea! If you stop using the textbook this allows students to be creative in exploring the course material. #bced
rvgenaille
19:51
#bced Sort of fell out of the chat, but thank you for all your insights. Have a good start-up everybody!
GaryM
19:51
RT @MrWejr: How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced
PAitken
19:51
RT @mrgamble6: @davidwees @abaconmoore More collaboration for teachers = More creativity for teachers. Apply the same formula for students #bced
AnaCristinaPrts
19:51
RT @davidwees: Do students need more autonomy in the classroom to have space to be creative? #BCed
mrsjoananderson
19:51
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
PAitken
19:51
RT @MrWejr: How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced
davidwees
19:51
RT @MrWejr: How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced
MrWejr
19:51
How to kill creativity = merit pay based on test scores #bced
leewin
19:50
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
mrgamble6
19:50
@davidwees @abaconmoore More collaboration for teachers = More creativity for teachers. Apply the same formula for students #bced
davidwees
19:50
Do students need more autonomy in the classroom to have space to be creative? #BCed
bctf
19:50
Association for Educators of Gifted, Talented and Creative Children in BC - Conference 2011 info at http://t.co/JTcDdoP #bced
davidwees
19:50
MT @MaryAnnReilly: @MrWejr @davidwees another reason why standardization is so problematic. impossible to be, let alone be creative. #BCed
davidwees
19:50
@ClassroomSooth I'm certainly in support of school leadership models which give more autonomy to teachers. #BCed
TRFletcher
19:50
@abaconmoore how much time do y'all invest in Cont. Ed in content, rather than instruct. Technique? Depth creates creativity. #bced
SheilaSpeaking
19:49
Help students know (and show them) that there are many ways to demonstrate creativity and be 'in' the creative process #bced
Neilstephenson
19:49
so many #evernote scanning apps! Any suggestions which is the best? #abed #bced #edchat
ClassroomSooth
19:49
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
davidwees
19:49
We took the game of monopoly at the #NWP Hackjam and rewrote the rules. Was a terrific creative exercise. #BCed
remi_collins
19:49
@abaconmoore @davidwees #bced agreed about facilitation, no reason teachers cannot take ownsership of collabo… (cont) http://t.co/RJDUc6n
MrWejr
19:49
We all need to stop saying "I am not creative" and just start to BE creative #bced
stumpteacher
19:49
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
davidwees
19:48
RT @MrWejr: We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
abaconmoore
19:48
I think @occam98 has thought about this. RT @davidwees: Has anyone tried teaching "hacking" as a form of creativity? #bced
MrWejr
19:48
We need to give teachers time and autonomy to BE creative #bced
gaw101
19:48
RT @PAitken: Creative Thinking - find new and innovative means to solve problems, present information and complete tasks individually or as a group #bced
davidwees
19:48
@abaconmoore @remi_collins Don't know if facilitate is necessary. We should be professionals and find more time to collaborate. #BCed
bctf
19:48
BC Association of Mathematics Teachers @BCAMT Fall Conference registration open. Theme: 21st Century Learning. http://t.co/E3d1Ipu #bced
traclement
19:48
RT @abaconmoore: if my school made me throw away (recycle) my textbook: i'd have to get real creative real fast. fear I rely on it too much. #bced
PAitken
19:48
@Stephen_Hurley #bced forced to step one lesson at a time when I taught math last year-not good at it-students allowed to wrk ahead tho
abaconmoore
19:47
@davidwees @remi_collins Good one! Teacher collaboration/ cross-talk surely enhances teacher creativity. admin needs to facilitate! #bced
davidwees
19:47
I define "hacking" in this context as taking an idea and building on it, changing it. #BCed
tomschimmer
19:47
@remi_collins Yes! Perm 2 B creative is the most effective model. If we model 2 much some will simply try 2 replicate. Just allow #bced
remi_collins
19:47
@davidwees agreed on traditional use limits creativity, math should not be taught in unit by unit, but concept by concept #BCed
davidwees
19:47
Has anyone tried teaching "hacking" as a form of creativity? #BCed
MrWejr
19:47
An example of an English teacher that encourages creativity in her classroom shared by @tomschimmer http://t.co/5Tc0NbX #bced
abaconmoore
19:47
I teach 11th grade biology. looking to start to use non-text books in class: immortal life of henrietta lacks; Your Inner Fish, etc #bced
davidwees
19:46
@abaconmoore @remi_collins And I see how traditional use of textbooks can reduce teacher collaboration. #BCed
remi_collins
19:46
@abaconmoore then take them out of the classroom, or decide which parts are essential and allow kids to teach selves #bced
bkuhn
19:46
thx @HHG for sharing the link http://t.co/JmIIJ22 to the interview @plind @sparkcbc @CatinStack #bced
davidwees
19:46
@abaconmoore @remi_collins I also think a key part of creativity is collaboration & communication. #BCed
Stephen_Hurley
19:45
RT @davidwees: @davidwees @remi_collins @abaconmoore How many math teachers step through the textbook 1 lesson at a time? #BCed
abaconmoore
19:45
@remi_collins agree, but it is SO easy to rely on them too much.wld really push me 2 b cr8tive if I could not use text! #bced
davidwees
19:45
@davidwees @remi_collins @abaconmoore How many math teachers step through the textbook 1 lesson at a time? #BCed
remi_collins
19:45
@PAitken modeling is good starting point, but we can best model creativity by getting out of the way #bced
iitch_inc
19:44
RT @remi_collins: @davidwees The quickest and easiest way to kill creativity in the room is to dictate the process from beginning to end #BCed
davidwees
19:44
@remi_collins @abaconmoore They do limit people who rely on them overly much to prepare their lessons. #BCed
remi_collins
19:44
@abaconmoore #bced don't think textbooks limit it, we are limited by how we use them #bced
davidwees
19:44
@chrkennedy Agree. Programs based on inquiry learning can be great, particularly if there is support. #BCed
Robin_ISH
19:44
RT @remi_collins: I think best way teachers can model creativity is to open up the floor to suggestions, if teacher models, risk is students will copy #bced
TeacherWebLinks
19:44
RT @remi_collins The quickest and easiest way to kill creativity in the room is to dictate the process from beginning to end #BCed #edchat
davidwees
19:43
@abaconmoore I've made sure to redo my lesson plans every year (I'm in my 10th year coming up) #BCed
chrkennedy
19:43
@davidwees Love what is happening with creativity in PYP and MYP schools @WestVanSchools - beauty of it being school-wide #bced
davidwees
19:43
RT @abaconmoore: if my school made me throw away (recycle) my textbook: i'd have to get real creative real fast. fear I rely on it too much. #bced
abaconmoore
19:43
if my school made me throw away (recycle) my textbook: i'd have to get real creative real fast. fear I rely on it too much. #bced
PAitken
19:42
@remi_collins #bced good point...students copy the examples I have...but it does give some of them a base to start from.
mbrewer_SL
19:42
RT @abaconmoore: @davidwees my creativity as a teacher is enhanced by twitter, blogging, & my PLN. gets me out of my own mind. #bced
davidwees
19:42
@abaconmoore Yes, I find the same thing. W/o blogging, I think I would not be the learner I am today. #BCed
mizminh
19:42
RT @Kehyslop: Beekeeping keeps primary students calm, fosters responsibility & respect for others http://t.co/OEMiMSC #bced #21stcenturylearning
MrReidWSS
19:42
@davidwees model creativity by taking chances #risktaking #bced
abaconmoore
19:42
@davidwees my creativity as a teacher is enhanced by twitter, blogging, & my PLN. gets me out of my own mind. #bced
remi_collins
19:42
I think best way teachers can model creativity is to open up the floor to suggestions, if teacher models, risk is students will copy #bced
nfrenchgillies
19:42
RT @MrWejr: More freedom = more creativity. Freedom to explore, freedom to play, freedom to ask questions. #bced
PAitken
19:42
@davidwees #bced modeling is only part of it of course...always like doing some of the projects I ask my students to do if time permits
MrReidWSS
19:41
Standardized tests have the effect of reducing creativity & critical thinking: test prep #bced
davidwees
19:41
How can we provide ways for teachers to be creative problem solvers as well? #BCed
abaconmoore
19:41
for me, creativity is manifest when students cross-apply my content to other domains or topics (within or beyond my class). #bced
remi_collins
19:40
@davidwees Good ole Shel, lalways loved his poems #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:40
@leewin the IB MYP rubrics do a good job of encouraging going further #bced
cliffboldt
19:40
RT @Kehyslop: Beekeeping keeps primary students calm, fosters responsibility & respect for others http://t.co/OEMiMSC #bced #21stcenturylearning
davidwees
19:40
What about teachers? How can they model creativity? After all, they are in the classrooms too... #BCed
davidwees
19:40
Okay back to #BCed chat after some quick Shel Silverstein.
GraemeCampbell
19:39
@leewin that's contingent on classroom atmosphere and if I make my rubric right...or we make the rubric right I should say #bced
leewin
19:39
RT @bryanjack: Mastery of content makes different things possible if approached creatively but school's focus values content at expense of creativity #bced
davidwees
19:39
RT @GraphPaperShirt: Avoid grading practice #BCed
GraphPaperShirt
19:39
Avoid grading practice #BCed
abaconmoore
19:39
agree. RT @salmonskyview: Creative process requires time, space and a supportive network to share with. Me: how 2 encourage in school? #bced
mrgamble6
19:39
Did #bced define creativity? Not boring?
tsocko
19:38
#BCed Thanks for letting a Boston girl crash the fun. Have a great night.
leewin
19:38
@GraemeCampbell do rubrics push your studnts to go further or just put in enough effort? I believe it is more a case of the latter #bced
tomschimmer
19:38
Have seen classes (gr. 12) where teacher grades & covers PLOs AND has incredibly creative ideas, solutions, & demos from her students #bced
abaconmoore
19:38
enhance creativity with focus on "open" vs. "fixed" mindset. #bced
salmonskyview
19:37
Creative process requires time, space and a supportive network to share with #BCed
davidwees
19:37
Taking a 5 minute break from #BCed to read a story to my little guy. BRB
mrgamble6
19:37
What's wrong with a rubric? Can't assess creativity? Then we can't teach it? Is that true? I don't think so. #bced
tsocko
19:37
Perfect reason to allow resubmits RT @darcymullin: @leewin agree reflect. is critical, S self assmnt is diff than tcher assessment. #BCed
shyj
19:37
RT @bryanjack: Mastery of content makes different things possible if approached creatively but school's focus values content at expense of creativity #bced
abaconmoore
19:36
@GraemeCampbell @davidwees can you elaborate? I don't understand how you assign levels to/ put rubric on creativity. #bced
davidwees
19:36
@George_Haines Agree. If you are closed minded about suggested student solutions, certain to reduce their impetus to share again. #BCed
HHG
19:36
Back to my walk here and look frwd to reading rest of #bced chat later. Thx for conversation all! http://t.co/MskBK2j
GraemeCampbell
19:36
@abaconmoore @davidwees oh, wait, you mean assess creativity - sorry, yea, I agree :) #bced
davidwees
19:36
RT @George_Haines: @davidwees When students suggest an alternate path to demonstrate understanding or to solve a problem, be open-minded. #BCed
davidwees
19:36
@GraemeCampbell @abaconmoore She means, put the word "creative" on your rubric and assign it a mark. #BCed
abaconmoore
19:36
increase creativity: free write/ journal for 3 min/ day. #bced
GraemeCampbell
19:35
@abaconmoore @davidwees NO! I've had very creative solutions with rubrics... #bced
George_Haines
19:35
@davidwees When students suggest an alternate path to demonstrate understanding or to solve a problem, be open-minded. #BCed
davidwees
19:35
RT @remi_collins: @davidwees The quickest and easiest way to kill creativity in the room is to dictate the process from beginning to end #BCed
remi_collins
19:35
@davidwees The quickest and easiest way to kill creativity in the room is to dictate the process from beginning to end #BCed
mrgamble6
19:35
Classroom environments can influence creativity. If the learning space is creative and interesting, more like to get creative ideas. #BCed
abaconmoore
19:35
want to increase creativity: ask students to share things they tried and failed at. workshop that: point out success in failure. #bced
davidwees
19:35
@abaconmoore I agree with you on that. #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:35
#bced when talking about things that kill creativity, let's make sure to rarely use "always" and "never" :) #bced
tsocko
19:34
Creativity often a reflection of student's understanding of topic & brain energy to focus further. Peers might not be at same place. #BCed
abaconmoore
19:34
@davidwees want to decrease creativity: put it in rubric and give it a grade! #bced
darcymullin
19:34
RT @davidwees: What are some sure ways to kill creativity in our classrooms? (What should we avoid?) #BCed Quantifying all student work.
abaconmoore
19:33
in fact, I think I see focus on grades as diminishing creativity in my students. they just want "right" answer if know I'm grading. #bced
mrgamble6
19:33
We need to model 'creative thinking' as teachers - and all the complexity it brings. #BCed
davidwees
19:33
What are some sure ways to kill creativity in our classrooms? (What should we avoid?) #BCed
darcymullin
19:33
@leewin I think differentiation is a gateway to creativity. #bced
George_Haines
19:32
@HHG That's true for sure. #BCed
tsocko
19:32
@mbrewer_SL Should creativity be assessed? Won't the product or idea that the creativity reflects be assessed? #BCed
HHG
19:32
@PAitken I like that! Opportunity to learn self assessment too! #bced
darcymullin
19:32
@leewin agree reflection is critical, student self assessment is different than teacher assessment. #bced
abaconmoore
19:32
even neuropsychologists would say that there is not a valid, reliable measure of "creativity." I agree. not sure you can "grade" it #bced
tomschimmer
19:32
@paitken Great...that "depth v. coverage" tension has always been there, but if we focus on outcomes v. tasks it can be easier. #bced
mbrewer_SL
19:32
@davidwees I agree, I spend the first few months nurturing a safe environment in my classroom #bced
PAitken
19:32
RT @leewin: @darcymullin I agree that this is something that would be hard to assess. I think learner reflection is important though. #bced
tsocko
19:31
@davidwees If we instill a love of learning in our students, won't creative minds fall into place? #BCed
mbrewer_SL
19:31
RT @darcymullin: I think it's dangerous to assess creativity. Pink would argue that by assessing and quantifying it you're killing it. #bced
leewin
19:31
@darcymullin I agree that this is something that would be hard to assess. I think learner reflection is important though. #bced
HHG
19:31
@George_Haines @davidwees Sometimes the word "right" means "my" way, yes? #bced
PAitken
19:31
@tomschimmer agreed, I have found myself doing that in the past...trying to break away from it now though #bced
tomschimmer
19:31
@hhg most need support & permission, at least in the beginning. This is where leaders are needed 2 create the opp. 4 teachers 2 do it #bced
GraemeCampbell
19:31
@HHG @davidwees @tomschimmer yep - assessment is under PD'd IMO #bced
davidwees
19:30
@salmonskyview @mbrewer_SL I think in order to allow creative thinking to flourish in your classroom, it needs to be "safe" space. #BCed
PAitken
19:30
@HHG perhaps having some tasks that are self-assessed and students are able to do whatever they want-others may be prescribed tasks #bced
tsocko
19:30
@davidwees Totally agree. But how often do we have kids that put in effort req. to complete, as opposed to genuine attempt to learn? #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:30
#bced PD for creative teaching and learning is lacking I think...
Thanks2Teachers
19:30
RT @joe_bower: Saying poverty isn't an excuse is to make excuses for ignoring poverty. #abed #edchat #bced #edtech
darcymullin
19:30
@leewin I think it is dangerous to assess creativity. Pink would argue that by assessing and quantifying it you are killing it. #bced
bcssta
19:30
Signing off for the night, I hope you all have a fabulous first day tomorrow! #bced
LogicalChoice
19:30
RT @davidwees: @salmonskyview @mbrewer_SL Peer assessment is good, but can lead to students feeling embarrassed to share their work. #BCed
PAitken
19:29
@HHG good point - how do you mark 30 different projects #bced
HHG
19:29
@GraemeCampbell @davidwees @tomschimmer Not that it can't be done, just seems realistic to me that many will need support. Agree? #bced
SheilaSpeaking
19:29
On now! RT @davidwees The topic for tonight's #BCed chat is "How can we find more ways to facilitate creative thinking in our classrooms?"
davidwees
19:29
@salmonskyview @mbrewer_SL Peer assessment is good, but can lead to students feeling embarrassed to share their work. #BCed
tomschimmer
19:29
@paitken ...but, also seen coverage emphasized in gr. 8/9 where there are no prov exams...not sure exams caused the coverage mindset #bced
tsocko
19:29
@davidwees Not necessarily true. Some students "phone it in" because they seek grades, not understanding & love of learning. #BCed
bryanjack
19:28
Assessment for creativity needs to emphasize learner-reflection on the process & directing future goals; grades are only 1 aspect. #bced
HHG
19:28
@davidwees @GraemeCampbell @tomschimmer Absolutely agree! What percentage of teachers does that naturally? How many need support? #bced
davidwees
19:28
@tsocko Students rarely learn from assignments on which they expend no effort. #BCed
darcymullin
19:28
so descriptive...not! RT @davidwees: Here's what I hate to hear a teacher say : "Nice work! That was a very creative solution!" #BCed
salmonskyview
19:28
There can be some very powerful self and peer assessment of creativity #BCed
mbrewer_SL
19:28
How would creativity be assessed? #bced
davidwees
19:28
@tsocko Think if students are just going through the motions, then your assignment is probably a waste of time for them. #BCed
tsocko
19:27
@davidwees But you know if a student is going through the motions. Isn't this the opposite of creativity? #BCed
tomschimmer
19:27
RT @darcymullin: @davidweest creativity should B encouraged, but stud's shld only B assessed on their learning.giv them difft paths 2 show it. #bced
leewin
19:27
What would an assessment for creativity look like and what would be the criteria for said assessment? #bced
HHG
19:27
@tomschimmer Agreed - meant that allowing creativity only half - also have to support teachers in assessment of vastly diff outcomes #bced
tomschimmer
19:27
@hhg ...U have to keep focused on the intended outcome & allow creative options/opportunities 4 kids to achieve...same PLOs 4 all 30 #bced
StepanVdovine
19:27
RT @Kehyslop: Beekeeping keeps primary students calm, fosters responsibility & respect for others http://t.co/OEMiMSC #bced #21stcenturylearning
darcymullin
19:27
@davidweest creativity should B encouraged, but stud's shld only B assessed on their learning.giv them difft paths 2 show it. #bced
davidwees
19:26
@PAitken I'm not sure, but artificial praise for creativity is unnecessary IMHO. #BCed
ShawnMcCusker
19:26
RT @tsocko: Come join some great educators from British Columbia at #BCed talking about creativity in the classroom. #edchat #sschat
davidwees
19:26
@HHG @GraemeCampbell I've marked 34 different projects numerous times. We use a rubric... #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:26
@HHG @davidwees you make sure your content is embedded in the 30 solutions - you mark the what, they did the how #bced
MrWejr
19:26
It is now mandatory to teach/report on art, music, drama, and dance curriculum. Hope it is done in a way that promotes creativity #bced
PAitken
19:26
@davidwees #bced - agree, but what would you prefer they said?
msbayles
19:26
Hope all my #BCed colleagues have a great first day back tomorrow! If anyone wants to set up a project with my class in Bogota contact me!
davidwees
19:25
Worse: "I'm sorry Johnny, that just isn't creative enough." #ugh #BCed
tsocko
19:25
Require students to express their understanding in multp. modalities. Force creativity and increase understanding at same time. #BCed
PAitken
19:25
@davidwees #bced need students to critically reflect on their learning/progress in order to assess-remove stress over grades-it may happen
leah_kelley
19:25
RT @salmonskyview: Modelling our own creative process helps students understand their own - joining in #bced
davidwees
19:25
Here's what I would hate to hear a teacher say to a student: "Nice work! That was a very creative solution!" #BCed
HHG
19:25
@davidwees @GraemeCampbell Not marking FOR creativity. But how do you mark 30 DIFFERENT projects? Logisitics overwhelming for some? #bced
rvgenaille
19:25
#bced I've periodically presented the PLOs and asked the students 2 design the project with me. Can be hit and miss, but they usually buy in
tomschimmer
19:25
@hhg I think creativity is the means to the end...or even the end to the means. I don't think U have 2 mark "creativity" #bced
GraemeCampbell
19:24
@HHG yep - good assessment practices come into play when working with creative solutions #bced
George_Haines
19:24
@davidwees But I would agree that the best answer isn't always evident until *after* the fact. Hindsight is 20/20. #BCed
davidwees
19:24
@George_Haines There is very rarely any best solution in the real world, just lots of approximations. Reality is messy. #BCed
tsocko
19:24
@davidwees Screencasting is a perfect example of creativity in the math classroom & encourage visual rep. skills & concept knowledge. #BCed
remi_collins
19:24
@davidwees I think feedback can help it grow, as always, it is hw the message is delivered and the feeling of safety in the class #BCed
iitch_inc
19:24
RT @davidwees: Can we assess creativity? Is that even a reasonable thing to do? If it isn't assessed, will the students do it? #BCed
HHG
19:24
Provide quiet time, space in the day. Allow kids to absorb and explore. Critical to my own creativity, I know! #bced
MsMagiera
19:23
RT @aakune: Too often, as tchrs we say ' I'd like u 2 think outside the box right now'. Shouldn't we encourage this all the time? #bced
davidwees
19:23
Can we assess creativity? Is that even a reasonable thing to do? If it isn't assessed, will the students do it? #BCed
salmonskyview
19:23
Our school holds a creativity fair for students to share a wide range of mostly student driven projects #BCed - Has anyone else done this?
PAitken
19:23
@tomschimmer #bced @davidwees @bryanjack - 'coverage' is only emphasized because of the need for grades and testing-prime example ss11 exam
MrWejr
19:23
RT @PAitken: @davidwees #bced need to also remove extrinsic motivations to encourage more creativity and creative thinking in the classroom.
George_Haines
19:23
@davidwees Not always. The word right usually means "best" in the real world, no? #BCed
davidwees
19:23
@HHG @GraemeCampbell Think if the teacher is marking for creativity, they don't really know what it is. #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:22
#bced I get to foster creativity by having free run over how I achieve the curricular objectives
HHG
19:22
@GraemeCampbell There's also "governance" piece about creativity in classroom, yes? How will teacher mark it? Manage it? Materials etc #bced
tsocko
19:22
@mbrewer_SL Worked this summer at using terminology agree/disagree rather than right/wrong with my students. Very powerful. #BCed
tomschimmer
19:22
@davidwees @bryanjack I'd say we emphasize "coverage" more than mastery. #bced
teachdig
19:22
@davidwees To me it looks like Ss solving the same problem in different ways. It is hard to encourage this at 1st. #BCed
leah_kelley
19:22
RT @aakune: Too often, as tchrs we say ' I'd like u 2 think outside the box right now'. Shouldn't we encourage this all the time? #bced
davidwees
19:22
@aakune Agree. You can't just flip a switch and suddenly expect students to think creatively. #BCed
leewin
19:21
@4moms1dream I agreee. They don't know what their limits are and are open to try new ways to solve a problem. #bced
davidwees
19:21
RT @aakune: Too often, as tchrs we say ' I'd like u 2 think outside the box right now'. Shouldn't we encourage this all the time? #bced
rvgenaille
19:21
@davidwees I think you can use Drama to teach Math. We did skits in my B.Ed to illustrate it. I'm blanking on details at the moment. #bced
FionaDe
19:21
Agree !! RT @HHG: Throw out the idea of the "right" way. Allow more than one path to destination. Let them show you "their" way... #bced
davidwees
19:21
@George_Haines By definition, the "right answer" != creative answer. "Right" assumes external definition & limited thinking. #BCed
MrWejr
19:21
Pink tells us that when we remove the game and the prize at the end, we get more creativity #bced
aenclade
19:21
RT @MrWejr: More freedom = more creativity. Freedom to explore, freedom to play, freedom to ask questions. #bced
HHG
19:20
@GraemeCampbell good point - thanks! #bced
aakune
19:20
Too often, as tchrs we say ' I'd like u 2 think outside the box right now'. Shouldn't we encourage this all the time? #bced
tsocko
19:20
Come join some great educators from British Columbia at #BCed talking about creativity in the classroom. #edchat #sschat
PAitken
19:20
RT @salmonskyview: Modelling our own creative process helps students understand their own - joining in #bced
dgoble2001
19:20
RT @mbrewer_SL: "If you're not prepared to be wrong, you'll never come up with anything original" Sir Ken Robinson, (this is posted above my door). #bced
PAitken
19:20
@davidwees #bced need to also remove extrinsic motivations to encourage more creativity and creative thinking in the classroom.
davidwees
19:20
@bryanjack We certainly spend too much time right now emphasizing mastery of content. No argument from me on that. #BCed
salmonskyview
19:20
Modelling our own creative process helps students understand their own - joining in #bced
HHG
19:19
Throw out the idea of the "right" way. Allow more than one path to destination. Let them show you "their" way... #bced
anselmcantaur
19:19
RT @bctf: 8 years since BC gov't Safe Schools Task Force reported homophobic bullying a problem in every community visited http://t.co/uPTJpM9 #bced
George_Haines
19:19
@davidwees Not sure I agree- pressure often fuels creative solutions (necessity is the mother of invention) cc @mbrewer_SL #BCed
davidwees
19:19
Don't forget the #BCed hashtag. Otherwise, no one else can see your tweets except me!
mbrewer_SL
19:19
While 'right answers' are important, I often make a bigger deal about interesting wrong answers... they're more interesting! #bced
bryanjack
19:19
If mastery of content and creative problem solving are a 'both' in #bced, we spend much time and energy emphasizing the former.
leewin
19:18
RT @PAitken: Creative Thinking - find new and innovative means to solve problems, present information and complete tasks individually or as a group #bced
davidwees
19:18
MT @CBrannon: @davidwees Creativity in Math class looks like my Physics class... #BCed
aakune
19:18
Coming up with a 'new' idea + applying it to an old context sounds like creativity. How about applying an 'old' idea to a new context? #bced
shovon_rahman
19:18
@davidwees #bced Not having to worry about the symbols, and formal ways of expressing math lingo.
GraemeCampbell
19:18
@HHG I agree with both - I think you can, and should, "learn" to be creative, but that's partially theory and mostly practice #bced
tomschimmer
19:18
RT @tsocko: When students become more of an "expert" at certain skills/abilities, it allows their brains more freedom to focus on creative energy. #BCed
davidwees
19:18
MT @tsbray: @davidwees discuss and share with students. I find TED Talks spark all types of creativity from students. #BCed
PAitken
19:17
<no task should have only one possible means of completing it-if students come up with a creative idea let them run with it @davidwees #bced
tomschimmer
19:17
@bachtrac not sure I see the link...why assume that experts stop learning? Maybe their continuous learning is what made them an expert #bced
shovon_rahman
19:17
#bced: on the topic of creativity: encouraging critical thinking is also another way of promoting creative thinking.
davidwees
19:17
What does creativity in Math class look like? #BCed
tsocko
19:17
When students become more of an "expert" at certain skills/abilities, it allows their brains more freedom to focus on creative energy. #BCed
HHG
19:17
@GraemeCampbell Learned? Or just fostered? Let them make messes. Give them time to build and imagine. Feed their natural curiosity... #bced
chrkennedy
19:17
@davidwees Our schools that have blocked out time for Destination Imagination http://t.co/geYHW1R are reporting good results #bced
davidwees
19:16
@mbrewer_SL You can't be creative if you are worried about getting the right answer. #BCed
PAitken
19:16
@davidwees #bced open ended ideas..many tasks that students are asked to undertake are linear, rather than giving them a canvas to paint on>
shovon_rahman
19:16
@PAitken #bced I think that's good. That's a great way to encourage someone to not be afraid of screwing up.
MrWejr
19:16
More freedom = more creativity. Freedom to explore, freedom to play, freedom to ask questions. #bced
bryanjack
19:16
Mastery of content makes different things possible if approached creatively but school's focus values content at expense of creativity #bced
davidwees
19:16
@mbrewer_SL So one way we can facilitate creative thinking is to allow more space for students to be wrong then? #BCed
lornacost
19:16
RT @bachtrac: I hope I never become an expert because that might mean I'm done learning “@davidwees: Are the best and most creative people the same #BCed”
mbrewer_SL
19:15
"If you're not prepared to be wrong, you'll never come up with anything original" Sir Ken Robinson, (this is posted above my door). #bced
bachtrac
19:15
I hope I never become an expert because that might mean I'm done learning “@davidwees: Are the best and most creative people the same #BCed”
NatBanting
19:15
Maybe it is our job to create a space for students to be creative. http://t.co/LQAu9In #BCed It should be unpredictable #mathchat
MrWejr
19:15
RT @4moms1dream: young children are free to be creative because they don't know the "rules" #bced
davidwees
19:15
@rvgenaille I think sometimes experts in the field benefit b/c they don't get told "you can't do that" as often by others. #BCed
aakune
19:15
RT @MrWejr: Questions about Edcamp & professional development http://t.co/PWAp0pR #edcampfv #edcampdelta #bced
PAitken
19:15
@shovon_rahman actually doing a whole unit on identity and self to start this year before we do anything else #bced
rvgenaille
19:15
@davidwees Just about to say, at the same time, mastery can open up the box and see it in a whole new way as well. #bced
shovon_rahman
19:14
@PAitken #bced that is exactly what I'm trying to express: they need to be confident in themselves.
davidwees
19:14
We've got a bit of a handle on creativity (I think). What can we do to facilitate in our classrooms? #BCed
tomschimmer
19:14
Am I "creative" in relation to some standard (i.e. it's an original idea) OR is creativity relevant to what I've done before? #bced
remi_collins
19:14
I am not sure if creative thinking is learned, or if it is shackled, watching kids work shows some amazing thinking #bced
davidwees
19:13
@rvgenaille As a counter-argument, Gretsky, one of the most creative hockey players ever, was also one of the hardest workers. #BCed
MrWejr
19:13
Questions about Edcamp & professional development http://t.co/PWAp0pR #edcampfv #edcampdelta #bced
shovon_rahman
19:13
@PAitken #bced because if they accept what others say, they will try to "fix" what they were criticised about.
bryanjack
19:13
I think learners need to be shown how to access & explore creativity: find that too-often they get message that school punishes it. #bced
davidwees
19:13
RT @rvgenaille: The more focused you get into your deep training, the more defined the box becomes and harder to be creative within. #bced
Miknabwanwee
19:13
RT @UBCIC: RT @bctf: BCTF Aboriginal Education Association blog http://t.co/ui4oQaI #bced #bcpoli @BC_AbEducation
bachtrac
19:13
RT @davidwees: Are the best and most creative people the same ones who work hard to become experts in their field? #BCed
rvgenaille
19:13
The more focused you get into your deep training, the more defined the box becomes and harder to be creative within. #bced
GraemeCampbell
19:13
#bced creativity has to be encouraged and started at a very young grade - it's a learned behavior in the classroom
davidwees
19:12
@remi_collins I definitely think that kindergarteners demonstrate some very creative thinking... so mastery not required. #BCed
mbrewer_SL
19:12
Often, the most creative people are the least knowledgeable (any elementary teacher will tell you this...) #bced
jackiegerstein
19:12
@davidwees #BCed Interesting article from @ScienceDaily "Why we crave creativity but reject creative ideas: http://t.co/s75F1wD
4moms1dream
19:12
young children are free to be creative because they don't know the "rules" #bced
aakune
19:12
I think some of the best creative thinking comes when studs pose thoughtful q's and when they are posed with challenges #bced
davidwees
19:12
@bryanjack @sirkenrobinson Or does a certain kind of mastery of other people's ideas reduce creativity? #BCed
davidwees
19:11
@bryanjack @sirkenrobinson It's a good question. Does mastery of content area reduce creativity? #BCed
shovon_rahman
19:11
@PAitken #bced the best way to get people to engage in critical thinking is to encourage them to not listen to anyone.
janebouey
19:11
RT @bctf: 8 years since BC gov't Safe Schools Task Force reported homophobic bullying a problem in every community visited http://t.co/uPTJpM9 #bced
davidwees
19:11
@chrkennedy I think using programs which allow for creativity are important, but difficult to design to build creativity. #BCed
remi_collins
19:11
@davidwees otherwise a K student could not be described as creative #BCed
remi_collins
19:10
@davidwees I think being unshackled and allowed to explore, sometimes answers might be wrong, but original thought is there #BCed
shovon_rahman
19:10
@PAitken #bced I agree with you, but the thing is, just saying not criticise is not going to work. People ARE going to criticise anyways.
teachdig
19:10
@PAitken @davidwees Very true. Often someone with a different knowledge base brings totally out of that box ideas. #BCed
MrWejr
19:10
Devices of the Future http://t.co/ysRg7rQ by @bkuhn #bced
bryanjack
19:09
There's the @sirkenrobinson point that kindergarten ST's score 'genius' marks in nonlinear thinking tests & it decreases w/ every year #bced
davidwees
19:09
RT @chrkennedy: Interested about others experiences with "programs" to promo creative thinking - we have several schools using Destination Imagination #bced
davidwees
19:09
@rvgenaille I'm in agreement with you that sometimes a lack of knowledge leads to answers outside the box. #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:08
@tomschimmer I don't think so - as long as you didn't "take" the other solution exactly then you're being creative #bced
chrkennedy
19:08
Interested about others experiences with "programs" to promo creative thinking - we have several schools using Destination Imagination #bced
davidwees
19:08
@remi_collins So deep knowledge not necessary for creativity then? What is required then? #BCed
rvgenaille
19:08
@davidwees disagree. Sometimes coming in from the outside with limited knowledge creates a new and unique perspective #bced
shovon_rahman
19:08
@davidwees #bced I always hear leaders say not to criticise, because that kills creativity. That's good, but I think there's a flaw to that.
remi_collins
19:07
@davidwees disagree about deep knowledge, I think in my opinion we are talking about original answers #BCed
PAitken
19:07
@davidwees sometimes a lack of knowledge in a domain may bring about creativity - too many ppl stuck in the old ways of doing things #bced
bryanjack
19:07
@davidwees 10,000 hours kind of idea: know the ropes before you climb them / learn the alphabet before you write. #bced
davidwees
19:07
Are the best and most creative people the same ones who work hard to become experts in their field? #BCed
davidwees
19:06
I've heard it said that you can't be really creative in a domain w/o deep knowledge of a domain. Is this true? #BCed
davidwees
19:06
@PAitken @shovon_rahman Agree on building on previous solutions. #BCed
tomschimmer
19:06
Does being creative mean it hasn't been done or thought of before? #bced
davidwees
19:05
@GraemeCampbell Agree with you on that. Can't solve the problems of today with the same thinking that produced them. #BCed
shovon_rahman
19:05
@PAitken @davidwees #bced but just saying "finding an innovative solution" isn't creative thinking.
PAitken
19:05
@davidwees they can always build upon what was learnt before - like Newton's "shoulders of giants quote" #bced
davidwees
19:05
Anyone in #edchat #edtech #edchatie want to join our conversation on creative thinking in schools? Use the #BCed hashtag.
GraemeCampbell
19:04
@davidwees I think so - right or wrong is the next discussion, but promoting creative thinking in and of itself is important #bced
davidwees
19:04
@PAitken Think we need to be careful to link creativity and innovation together too tightly. #BCed
davidwees
19:04
@PAitken So if the students find a way to solve a problem, but someone else thought of it before them, it's not creative? :) #BCed
davidwees
19:03
RT @PAitken: Creative Thinking - find new and innovative means to solve problems, present information and complete tasks individually or as a group #bced
rvgenaille
19:03
RT @Kehyslop: Beekeeping keeps primary students calm, fosters responsibility & respect for others http://t.co/OEMiMSC #bced #21stcenturylearning
PAitken
19:03
Creative Thinking - find new and innovative means to solve problems, present information and complete tasks individually or as a group #bced
shovon_rahman
19:03
@davidwees #bced: going with the flow. Do stuff that pops in your head the second and sticking to it.
davidwees
19:03
@GraemeCampbell So creative thinking defined through creating? Anything students create counts as creative? #BCed
davidwees
19:02
@shovon_rahman How would you define creative thinking? #BCed
GraemeCampbell
19:02
@davidwees something a student either creates themselves or works with a group to create. Cld also be an extension of learning #bced
davidwees
19:02
@shovon_rahman Agreed. You can't be creative unless there is space for you to do so. #BCed
glenhansman
19:02
RT @bctf: The numbers tell the story: Education funding in BC http://t.co/GDk4WH8 #bced #bcpoli
shovon_rahman
19:01
@davidwees #edchat #bced: teach kids to not take criticism at face value.
davidwees
19:01
I think the first thing we need to do is attempt to define "creative thinking." #BCed #edchat
davidwees
19:00
The topic for tonight's #BCed chat is "How can we find more ways to facilitate creative thinking in our classrooms?"